
Does Market Timing Work? What Investing Teaches Ranchers
Lessons From The Ranchonomics Podcast Episodes 13 & 14 With Bob Metzger
Every time the cow market runs hot, I hear the same thing: “Cattle are high: I should sell out, sit on cash, and buy back when they crash.” It’s tempting. It also assumes you can call the top and the bottom. So let me answer the question straight: does market timing work? No. Not in stocks, and not in cattle.
That’s not my opinion alone. Bob Metzger spent thirty years as a Vice President of Investments at A.G. Edwards, managing around $160–170 million in stocks, bonds, and funds, before going full-time into the cattle business in Hugo, Oklahoma. He’s watched both worlds closely, and his verdict on timing the market is the same on either side of the fence. Does market timing work better once you’ve got thirty years and two industries under your belt? Even Bob says no. This one’s for cow-calf and stocker operators wondering whether to bail at the top.
Key Takeaways
- Timing the market fails the same way in cattle as in stocks: you end up “like a dog chasing its tail,” always a step behind.
- A market can stay wildly overvalued or undervalued for months or years. High prices don’t have to come down on your schedule.
- The real money comes from staying invested for decades and letting returns compound, not from jumping in and out.
- Cattle deserve a required rate of return (Bob targets 15%+, ideally pushing 40%) to justify the work and risk over a passive index fund.
- Does market timing work if you specialize in one commodity instead of the whole stock market? No: the same trap catches cattle sellers and stock pickers alike.
Does Market Timing Work in Cattle the Way It Fails in Stocks?
Bob’s investing philosophy is almost boringly simple: buy low-cost index funds, add money regularly, and leave it there for the long term. He’s a believer in dollar-cost averaging in both up and down markets, because the logic of “the market seems high, so I’ll wait” falls apart fast. As he points out, the market looked high at every record it set over the last thirty years. Wait for the perfect pullback and you’ll never actually invest. Does market timing work if you just wait for the dip that feels safe? Not according to thirty years of records that kept climbing anyway.
The same trap catches ranchers. When folks ask whether to time the cattle market, my answer leans on Bob’s: don’t. If you were truly brilliant enough to call every turn, you wouldn’t need cattle at all. You’d just trade them on paper in the futures market, where there’s no feeding, no breaking ice, no death loss. The fact that nobody’s getting rich forecasting cattle and trading on it tells you everything. Does market timing work any better from a trading desk than from a pickup truck? Bob’s answer is still no.
Remember the summer of 2024. Every university economist and newsletter writer swore cattle had to keep climbing: low numbers, tight supply, all the macro reasons. Prices went down anyway. At the Week in the Rockies sale, Bob watched cattle sell higher than anyone ever had, and the sellers were still disappointed because the forecasts had promised more. August–October futures sat near $2.80–$2.85; a lot of cattle traded around $2.50. The forecast was simply wrong, which it often is. Does market timing work when literally every expert agrees on the call? The summer of 2024 proves it doesn’t.
Why Timing the Market Punishes You: A Real $400,000 Lesson
Does market timing work when there’s real money and real years on the line? Here’s the story that settles it for me. In 1987, Bob put a client into $100,000 of Washington Mutual, a blue-chip fund. After a small sales load he was in around $97,500. Then came Black Monday: the Dow dropped 22% in a single day. The client panicked, moved everything to a money market fund, and said he’d get back in when he “felt better.”
The market recovered all of that loss within thirteen months. The client never got back in. Not the next year, not the year after, not until Bob retired in 2009, twenty-two years later. There was always an excuse: too high now, scary again now. By the end he had roughly $105,000. Had he simply stayed put, it would have been $400,000 to $500,000. That gap is the price of trying to time the market. Does market timing work even with two years of hindsight to correct course? The client had twenty-two, and it still didn’t.
And it’s almost never about getting direction wrong. As Bob puts it, the devil is in the timing. It’s why most people who buy options lose money, not because they missed the direction, but because they missed the month. Markets are driven by fear and greed in the short run, and emotion will talk you out of getting back in every single time. The only way to take emotion off the table is to stay invested and ride the asset up and down. Does market timing work for the disciplined investor any more than the panicked one? Emotion doesn’t check your resolve before it talks you out of the trade.
Cattle as a Deliberate Investment With a Required Return
Owning cattle isn’t that different from owning index funds: you’re putting capital to work and letting it ride through cycles. There’s even built-in dollar-cost averaging: managed right, you keep taking the cash the herd throws off and rolling it back into more animals. Cattle also let you diversify geographically by grazing in different places, the way you’d diversify a stock portfolio across large, mid, and small caps. Does market timing work better when you dress it up as a “required rate of return” instead of a guess about tops and bottoms? No, the two ideas solve completely different problems.
But cattle aren’t a stock, and the differences matter. The S&P 500 has trended up over a 30-to-100-year window (roughly 10–11% a year), which by the rule of 72, doubles your money about every seven years. Commodities don’t carry that same guarantee; cattle prices can and do retreat to historical levels. They also demand real work, plus death loss and gain risk.
Bob sets a required rate of return: 15% or better, year in and year out, and ideally closer to 40% to justify the effort over a passive fund. If you can’t clear that bar consistently, rethink where your money’s going. At 15%, the rule of 72 says you’re doubling roughly every five years instead of seven. That acceleration is the whole point.
Bob’s guardrails For The Cattle Market:
- Leverage: stay away from margining stock.
- Market rops: margin calls cascade like dominoes.
- For cattle debt: he’s comfortable up to about 50% borrowed, enough equity to ride out a 50% drop without trouble with the bank.
The model is the Bud Williams paradigm: don’t fret much about what you sell, worry about what you buy back. That buyback is where the cash flow lives, because somewhere on the continuum (a 300-pound heifer, a 900-pound feeder), something is always undervalued relative to the rest. Does market timing work if you narrow it down to just one weight class or one sale barn? Not really: the same buy-back discipline beats guessing no matter where you’re shopping.
The Long Game: Compounding and Persistence
If timing the market is the losing strategy, compounding over decades is the winning one. Bob and I have a mutual friend who’s averaged 36–40% ROI in cattle over twenty years, through plenty of down markets: proof it can be done and compounded. The rule of 72 makes it concrete: at 40%, you’re doubling your money in under two years. Does market timing work over a shorter window, say five or ten years? Even then, Bob’s answer is no: compounding needs the full decades to do its job.
The bigger lever, though, is duration. Bob’s blunt about it: returns will vary, but keep at it for thirty or forty years (whether that’s steady investing in an index fund or consistently buying and selling cattle profitably), and don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t get very rich doing it. He also credits a $500 Bud Williams marketing school that paid for itself in under a month and shaped how he buys and sells to this day; he points younger ranchers toward those schools (Wally Olson, Anne Barnhart, Doug Ferguson, and Bud’s family among them) over a college degree. The point is the same one running through both episodes: control what you can control, stay in, and let time do the heavy lifting. Does market timing work as a replacement for that kind of patience? Nothing Bob has seen in thirty years of doing both says it does.
Frequently Asked Questions
Does market timing work for cattle or stocks? No. Across thirty years in investments and a second career in cattle, Bob Metzger has never seen it work in either. You end up chasing the market and falling behind. Markets can stay overvalued or undervalued for years, so high prices today don’t have to drop on your timeline.
Does market timing work if you only try it occasionally, like once a decade? No. Even one well-timed call tends to get undone by the next one you miss. Bob’s own client only had to guess wrong once, in 1987, and it cost him decades of compounding he never got back.
Should I sell my cows because the market is high? Only if you genuinely want out of the business entirely and want cash in hand. Selling at the top to “buy back the bottom” assumes you can call both turns, and the historical record says you can’t. Staying invested and managing your buyback is the more reliable path.
What rate of return should cattle earn to be worth it? Bob targets at least 15% a year, and ideally closer to 40%, to justify the work and risk versus a passive index fund returning 10–11%. If you can’t consistently beat that benchmark, it’s worth rethinking where your capital is working.
What’s the rule of 72? Divide 72 by your annual return to estimate how many years it takes to double your money. At 10% it’s about 7.2 years; at 15% it’s under 5; at 40% it’s under 2. It’s a quick way to see why a higher, compounded return matters so much over a career, and why the question of does market timing work matters so much less than the question of whether you stayed in.
The Bottom Line
So, does market timing work? The honest answer is no: not in equities and not in cattle. The ranchers who build real wealth aren’t the ones who guessed the top; they’re the ones who stayed invested, demanded a solid return, and let compounding run for decades. Does market timing work as a shortcut to that kind of wealth? History says no: patience is the only shortcut that’s ever actually paid off. If you’d rather build that kind of confidence in your own numbers, the team at Ranch Right runs webinars on the financial and business side of ranching.
More From the Cattle Value Series
- The Cattle Cycle: What Drives Your Herd’s Value: the full cluster guide
- Cow Depreciation: The Hidden Cost Eating Your Profit: why cows lose value even when the market doesn’t
- Should I Sell My Cows When Prices Are High?: the math to run before you cash out
- How Does Drought Affect Cattle Prices?: how dry years reset the whole cattle cycle
This article draws on Episodes 13 and 14 of the Ranchonomics Podcast with Bob Metzger.
























